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Old 12-18-2009   #1
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The Holy Prophet (S.A.W.) said: "O' Fatimah! Every eye shall be weeping on the Day of Judgment except the eye which has shed tears over the tragedy of Husain (A.S.) for surely, that eye shall be laughing and shall be given the glad tidings of the bounties and comforts of Paradise." (Bihar al-Anwar, vol,: 44)

I found that somewhere.

Is that quote legit?

I'm curious.
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Old 12-18-2009   #2
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look at the source. shia
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Old 12-18-2009   #3
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I tried to do an online hadeeth search (which checks all known hadeeth collections) with the words al-husain and various words that could refer to weeping in arabic and got 0 results every time... so, allaahu a'lam
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Old 12-19-2009   #4
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يا فاطمة! كل عين باكية يوم القيامة ، إلا عين بكت على مصاب الحسين فانها ضاحكة مستبشرة بنعيم الجنة


This is not from our collections of Hadith. It is found in Bihar al-Anwar of al-Majlisi. We have a similar narration that says "except for the eye that weeps from fear of Allah, stays awake in the Path of Allah...etc" It is found in al-Bayhaqi's Sunan and al-Mustadrak of al-Hakim.

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Source might be shia.

But it's a hadith nonetheless. If the prophet said it, he said it. Get what I'm sayin'? But idk. Just found something like that really... Unexpecting.
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Source might be shia.

But it's a hadith nonetheless. If the prophet said it, he said it. Get what I'm sayin'? But idk. Just found something like that really... Unexpecting.
but only if the prophet actually did say it. if it was considered authentic, it would be included in the sunni sets of hadith also.
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Old 12-19-2009   #7
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just the fact that you're asking if its legit, shows that there is doubt.


What do we not have any doubt with? Definitely the collections of hadith that we know have a reliable and trustworthy way of narrating, like Al Bukhari, Muslim to name the top two.

A question that just popped up in my head..do the Shia have saheeh, hasan, and da'eef categories? I wonder how their hadith categorization is like
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just the fact that you're asking if its legit, shows that there is doubt.


What do we not have any doubt with? Definitely the collections of hadith that we know have a reliable and trustworthy way of narrating, like Al Bukhari, Muslim to name the top two.
Ohhh. Okay, I get it now.

Yeah, I had a BIG doubt. Just raised some questions. If he really did say that. Majority probably would have been Shia then.
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just the fact that you're asking if its legit, shows that there is doubt.


What do we not have any doubt with? Definitely the collections of hadith that we know have a reliable and trustworthy way of narrating, like Al Bukhari, Muslim to name the top two.

A question that just popped up in my head..do the Shia have saheeh, hasan, and da'eef categories? I wonder how their hadith categorization is like
That would be something interesting to look into... how they get their ahaadeeth in the first place.. I believe that at least some of their sects consider that the majority of the sahaabah apostated or were not true followers of prophet muhammad ... if they don't even believe that so many of the sahabah, from whom we get our ahaadeeth, were even muslim, i don't know how they get their ahaadeeth..... doesn't seem like a chain of narration method, like what we have, would work in that system... they have too many ahadeeth to have come with accurate chains from the few sahaabah they accept. Also, I never see any chains mentioned on their sites... usually just 'the prophet said' right away. wallaahu 'lam

here's one link i found that at least shows that they do consider some ahaadeeth to be saheeh vs not-saheeh... in concept, if not in name... but it appears to be a non-shi'ee site.. so maybe we should look at their own sites

http://www.ahya.org/amm/modules.php?...ticle&artid=72
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i just finished reading that link i posted... umm... that's definitely not my style... maybe i should look for another site
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