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hani
05-20-2008, 10:47 PM
SubhanAllah....got this in an email:


SEX IN DEPTH
In Pakistan, a dark trade comes to light
By William Sparrow

BANGKOK - Prostitution in the Islamic nation of Pakistan, once relegated to dark alleys and small red-light districts, is now seeping into many neighborhoods of country's urban centers. Reports indicate that since the period of civilian rule ended in 1977, times have changed and now the sex industry is bustling.

Early military governments and religious groups sought to reform areas like the famous "Taxali Gate" district of Lahore by displacing prostitutes and their families in an effort to "reinvent" the neighborhood.

While displacing the prostitutes might have temporarily made the once small red-light district a better neighborhood for a time, it did little to stop the now dispersed prostitutes from plying their trade. Reforming a neighborhood, instead of offering education and alternative opportunities, appears to be at the core of early failures to curb the nascent sex industry. This mistake would become a prophetic error as now the tendrils of the sex trade have become omnipresent in cities like Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Karachi and Lahore, not to mention towns, villages and rural outposts.

An aid worker for an Islamabad-based non-governmental organization (NGO) recently related a story: quickly after his arrival in the capital, he realized the house next to his own was a Chinese brothel. The Chinese ability to "franchise" the commercial sex industry by providing down-trodden Chinese women throughout Asia, North America and Europe would be admirable in a business sense if it were not for the atrocities - human trafficking, sexual slavery and exploitation - which cloud its practice.

Chinese bordellos, often operating as "massage parlors" or beauty salons, are across Pakistan, even spread even to war-torn and restive locations such as the Afghan capital Kabul. Chinese in the sex industry have developed a cunning ability to recognize areas where the demand for sex far outstrips the supply.

The NGO worker said that after months of living adjacent to the brothel things were shaken up - literally. One evening a drunk Pakistani drove his car into the brothel. Later the driver told authorities the ramming was a protest by a devout Muslim against the debauchery of the house and its inhabitants. The NGO worker, however, had seen the same car parked peacefully outside the house the night before.

The local sex industry comprised of Pakistani prostitutes has also grown in recent years. One can easily find videos on YouTube that show unabashed red-light areas of Lahore. The videos display house after house with colorfully lit entranceways always with a mamasan and at least one Pakistani woman in traditional dress. The women are available for in-house services for as little as 400 rupees (US$6) to take-away prices ranging 1,000 to 2,000 rupees. These districts are mostly for locals, but foreigners can indulge at higher prices.

Foreigners in Pakistan have no trouble finding companionship and may receive rates similar to locals in downtrodden districts. More upscale areas like Lahore's Heera Mundi or "Diamond Market", cater to well-heeled locals and foreigners. At these places prettier, younger girls push their services for 5,000 to 10,000 rupees for an all-night visit, and the most exceptional can command 20,000 to 40,000 rupees for just short time.

Rumors abound online that female TV stars and actresses can be hired for sex. "You can get film stars for 50,000 to 100,000 rupees but you need good contacts for that," one blogger wrote after a trip to Lahore.

"The Lahore, Karachi and Rawalpindi sex scenes are totally changing and it's easier and easier to get a girl for [sex]," another blogger wrote. "Most of the hotels provide you the girls upon request." Bloggers also reported that it is easy to find girls prowling the streets after 6 pm, and foreigners can find young women hanging out near Western franchises like McDonald's and KFC. Such women, the bloggers claim, can lead the customer to a nearby short-time accommodation.

Short-time hotels offering hourly rates can be found all over major cities, underscoring the profits being reaped by the sex industry.

Pakistan can also accommodate the gay community with prostitution. Unfortunately, this has also given rise to child prostitution.

A Pakistani blogger wrote, "We [ethnic] Pathans are very fond of boys. [In Pakistan] the wives are only [had sex with] once or twice a year. There are lot of gay brothels in Peshawar - the famous among them is at Ramdas Bazaar. [One can] go to any Afghan restaurant and find young waiters selling sex."

As in many societies, access to technology, the Internet and mobile phones has only facilitated the sex trade in Pakistan. "Matchmaking" websites serve the male clientele, while providing marketing for prostitutes.

The root causes of prostitution in Pakistan are poverty and a dearth of opportunities. Widows find themselves on the streets with mouths to feed, and for many prostitution offers a quick fix. A local Pakistani prostitute can earn 2,000 to 3,000 rupees per day compared to the average monthly income of 2,500 rupees.

Forced prostitution is not rare. Women in hard times are often exploited and pushed into prostitution. Sandra (not her real name), said that after the death of her father she was left alone; friends and relatives deserted her after the grieving period. As a middle-class, educated woman she was surprised to find herself forced into prostitution from her office job.

"My boss initially spoiled me at first," she told Khaleej Times. "[But] now I am in [the sex industry]." Sandra first thought her boss was being gracious, but quickly learned he was grooming her for sex for his own pleasure, and then acting as her pimp.

Many of Pakistan's contemporary sexual mores may have evolved from traditional practices. For example, the polygamy permitted in Muslim society stemmed from the need for larger family units, the better to support familial ties and tend for widows. Until such ancient customs are updated, women such as Sandra will continue to be bought and sold.

It's time for Pakistan to admit that prostitution is doing a roaring trade within its borders, and will continue to prosper until it is addressed in a modern manner. Let us hope that the people and government of this proud Muslim country will stop pretending the problem simply isn't there.

William Sparrow has been an occasional contributor to Asia Times Online and now joins Asia Times Online with a weekly column. Sparrow is editor in chief of Asian Sex Gazette and has reported on sex in Asia for over five years. To contact him send question or comments to Letters@atimes. com.

Hasassin
05-20-2008, 10:57 PM
thats biased
but sad

this sexual perversion wouldent be a problem if there was a natural relationship between men and women

in pakistan the perverts on the streets cannot control themselves, becuse they dont have the clubs and bars of thier american counterparts.

hani
05-20-2008, 11:00 PM
thats biased
but sad

this sexual perversion wouldent be a problem if there was a natural relationship between men and women

in pakistan the perverts on the streets cannot control themselves, becuse they dont have the clubs and bars of thier american counterparts.

actually they even have strip clubs in pakistan.

Regoob
05-20-2008, 11:01 PM
its interesting how the author, though not a muslim, realizes that the Islamic teaching of having more than one wife can be of aid in this type of situation.

AmnahK
05-20-2008, 11:02 PM
pakistan has evolved..they think everyone in america does it..so they gotta do the same

A.M.S
05-20-2008, 11:07 PM
this sexual perversion wouldent be a problem if there was a natural relationship between men and women

in pakistan the perverts on the streets cannot control themselves, becuse they dont have the clubs and bars of thier american counterparts.

Are you seriously trying to argue that there isn't sexual perversion in this society?

molocha
05-20-2008, 11:10 PM
this is sad

hayya-alal-*FaLaH*
05-20-2008, 11:18 PM
reality is so harsh nowadays.

Omar Ahmed
05-20-2008, 11:22 PM
subhanAllah, that is disturbing

this sexual perversion wouldent be a problem if there was a natural relationship between men and women

in pakistan the perverts on the streets cannot control themselves, becuse they dont have the clubs and bars of thier american counterparts.
?
way to make a blanket statement

its interesting how the author, though not a muslim, realizes that the Islamic teaching of having more than one wife can be of aid in this type of situation.

poor women has kids to feed and she's forced into prostitution
its amazing, i dont know how people make it, for example teachers get paid 4k-6k rupees per month, 10k is considered a really good salary there
and stuff like food is skyrocketing in prices, meat is like 400 a kilo there, and they have a ton of other expenses on top of that

May Allah help those in need and give them his mercy and may He save them from anxiety and hardship, may He save them from overwhelming debt and the agony of men.
May He guide our brothers and sisters to the straight path.

hani
05-20-2008, 11:23 PM
ameen

sabirah
05-21-2008, 12:52 PM
i rmr when i was in high school and if i ever acted the least bit rebellious my parents wud threaten me with "We're gonna move to pakistan" and that sure as hell straightened me up. But after going to pakistan for the first time in 02, i cudn't figure out why they threatened me with it. The avg ppl i saw on the street dressed and acted a lot worse than the avg muslim in america...
ya, so that threat no longer worked :)

devotion2islam
05-21-2008, 01:19 PM
SubhanALlah, this makes me sooooooooooooo sad!
WHY?!?! why can't men control their naafs, why is there so much corruption..... man, i can ask another thousand questions, but I won't because it's Qadr of Allah.

*i'm not speaking of every guy.... it's just that after reading the article, men like the ones mentioned seem so disgusting imo =(*

Hasassin
05-21-2008, 02:20 PM
lol its just my theory on one of the cuases of perversion


and no this society has its own perversion and homosexuality

sabirah
05-21-2008, 02:29 PM
10k is considered a really good salary there


i remember talkin to my brother in law in paki, and he was like 'yall shud move to paki. farooq has a masters he cud easily make like 20K rupees' and im like converting that into dollars n it turns into like $300-400. and im thinking, whoa, im not done with school yet, and i cud work at wal mart and make that much in on week. and the cost of living isn't all that cheaper in paki. like gasoline is the same price as it is here, thats extremely crazy.

Hamza
05-21-2008, 10:30 PM
SubhanALLAH.........this all from the Allah, and its amongsts the sign of Qiyamah

Saf1
05-22-2008, 12:29 AM
Pakistan can also accommodate the gay community with prostitution. Unfortunately, this has also given rise to child prostitution.

A Pakistani blogger wrote, "We [ethnic] Pathans are very fond of boys. [In Pakistan] the wives are only [had sex with] once or twice a year. There are lot of gay brothels in Peshawar - the famous among them is at Ramdas Bazaar. [One can] go to any Afghan restaurant and find young waiters selling sex."



... O_O

Esa Parada
05-22-2008, 04:42 AM
We [ethnic] Pathans are very fond of boys. [In Pakistan] the wives are only [had sex with] once or twice a year. There are lot of gay brothels in Peshawar - the famous among them is at Ramdas Bazaar. [One can] go to any Afghan restaurant and find young waiters selling sex."


excuse my ignorance....what is a pathan?...i remember hearing brothers making fun of each other when we would play bball when i first became muslim about u being patan...and gujarati..and other lovely names that i didnt understand.

would anyone know why this specific group likes "boys"...

May Allah help and guide the muslims..ameen

sabirah
05-22-2008, 11:29 AM
We [ethnic] Pathans are very fond of boys. [In Pakistan] the wives are only [had sex with] once or twice a year. There are lot of gay brothels in Peshawar - the famous among them is at Ramdas Bazaar. [One can] go to any Afghan restaurant and find young waiters selling sex."


excuse my ignorance....what is a pathan?...i remember hearing brothers making fun of each other when we would play bball when i first became muslim about u being patan...and gujarati..and other lovely names that i didnt understand.

would anyone know why this specific group likes "boys"...

May Allah help and guide the muslims..ameen


pathan is an ethnic subgroup under south asians. they speak pashto, and primarily live in afghanistan and the NW frontier province in pakistan, some areas of Baluchistan.

gujratis as well, are originally from gujrat in india, and speak gujrati, but then the muslim gujratis migrated to pakistan.

why they have homosexual tendencies, allahu alam

sheik speare
05-22-2008, 01:06 PM
pakistan has evolved..they think everyone in america does it..so they gotta do the same
actually, prostitution is seen as the "oldest occupation in the world." its been going on for thousands of years and america wasnt the first and isnt the only place where it is practiced. there are documented reports/stories of prostitution existing in these areas for quite a while.

hani is my manboy.

AbdulHasib
06-01-2008, 08:58 PM
Esa, Pathan's are Pashtun's on the eastern Afghanistan side of the border which belongs to Afghanistan past the durand line - the NWFP area, Quetta, Peshawr, etc.
(Currently OCCUPIED by Pakistan).

Traditionally named by Desi's.

they are of the Pashtun tribe (the world's largest tribe) and 'Pathan' is often used synonymously with Pashtun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathan

"Many claimants of Pashtun heritage in South Asia have mixed with local Muslim populations and refer to themselves (and to Pashto-speaking Pashtuns and often to Afghans in general) as Pathans, the Hindi-Urdu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_language) variant of Pashtun."



In short, they are Pashtuns of South Asia (by decent or otherwise "claims.") The difference is semantic.


Secondly, "They" don't like boys (and i would be very careful in generalizing a group).

There is a tradition from jaahiliyyah that is in the sub culture that is remote with regards to homosexual tendencies to young and 'woman' ish type boys; and exists to this day.


may Allah rectify our people. Ameen.

prettybirdies89
06-03-2008, 12:26 PM
In india, a lot of discrimination happens against pathans. They're viewed as a 'backwards' group of people.. whatever that is supposed to mean.

basicaslly of a lower caste i think.

ameera
06-03-2008, 01:00 PM
There is a tradition from jaahiliyyah that is in the sub culture that is remote with regards to homosexual tendencies to young and 'woman' ish type boys; and exists to this day.


may Allah rectify our people. Ameen.


are you talking about the pathans?